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Freedom and amendments, firearms and abortions

In certain countries the debate about abortion and birth control is being enforced with the influx of refugees and having more people to get so poor that they can not afford a family any more.

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In the United States lots of people react negatively on any form of giving help for women with questions about having children or in avoiding having children. In the U.S.A. it is harder for a woman to get an abortion than it is for someone to buy an AK-47. Atpoklop with her “we all need feminism” hits the nail on the head and should bring much more American Christians thinking.

Lots of those Pro-Life and Anti-abortion groups have very big words and shout a lot from the roofs, telling the whole world we should protect life and that nobody has the right to take the life from the unborn child. Though they do not seem to have any problem with carrying weapons and are defending the right to shoot at some one even to kill him or her. Suddenly the act of forbidden killing does not count any more.

Many people do seem to forget that the centres for parental planning have a good reason to be there and have a good reason to keep existing, proving a lot of necessary education to avoid the worse and mostly also to avoid people to be placed in front of the awful question to abort or not to have an abortion.

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People holding signs at a Planned Parenthood Rally, NYC 2011.

In the States Planned Parenthood has 35 percent of its total activities, like similar organisations in many other countries, revolving around sex education and providing contraception.

Instead what (so-called ‘pro-life’ policies have) succeeded in doing is compromising the health of thousands of women, all while the number of abortions increase. {Bobby Jindal’s Anti-Women Policies in Louisiana: A Case Study}

Lots of people forget a government has to protect its citizens, the one which are already there, but also the unborn or the ones which could come to being. It has to create directives, rules and regulations and provide laws to be a guidance and for being able to react justified when something goes wrong or when there is discussion about a certain event.

Having certain things put in laws does not mean that those laws are providing for moral justice.

To be blunt, the legality of an act is not enough to make it moral. One clear example of this would be antebellum slavery, which was legal for quite some time in the United States. Would those who want to assert that legality is enough to make an act morally permissible agree that slavery, at that time, was moral? If so, that is a tough pill to swallow. {“But it’s Legal” – Does the legality of an act make it moral?}

In history we see that several groups of people tried to find ways to provide their own society only with ‘justified’ beings, totally according their ‘wants’.

About what happened in Germany student member of the Evangelical Philosophical Society and the Evangelical Theological Society writes:

By willingly participating in and carrying out genocide and other atrocities, despite having orders to do so and acting within the laws of their land, the Nazis had still violated a higher law, which held them to a moral standard. There remains much debate over the legal basis for the convictions and executions of those who carried out the atrocities, but it seems that if one ultimately wants to argue that the law is all it requires to make something moral, they must side with the Nazis and agree that they should not have been held accountable for their acts. {“But it’s Legal” – Does the legality of an act make it moral?}

Who can be accounted for their acts?

Who is going to decide who is wrong, when was wrong, who is right, when was right?

We can therefore see that the mere appeal to a law to argue something is moral is not enough. Anyone who disagrees must assert that slavery, as it was being conducted in the United States, was at least morally ambiguous if not a moral good, because it was legal. Similarly, they must assert that the genocide the Nazis carried out was itself at least morally ambiguous if not a moral good, because it was legal and they did it under orders. The absurdity of these two conclusions should lead any reasonable person to agree that the legality of an act is not enough to establish its morality. {“But it’s Legal” – Does the legality of an act make it moral?}

Thus, the simple legality of an act does not make it moral. An appeal to an acts legality does not mean it should be dismissed from moral scrutiny. Planned Parenthood should justly remain under intense scrutiny. {“But it’s Legal” – Does the legality of an act make it moral?}

For sure every act, every law, every organisation, people should question and look under the loop to see if it is in accordance to what they belief is ‘just’ or ‘right’. But they must be careful by judging and sincerely look into the matter, balance the pro’s and con’s and compare with other possibilities.

In case there are no centres provided by the state to help girls, young women, young men, to help them in questions those youngsters do not dare to come with by their own parents, is it not better to have professionals guiding them? Is it not better that those who have doubts about carrying a child have some safe haven where they can sincerely discuss all different possibilities and can come in contact with others who had to make such not easy choices.

We may not forget that life is not just black and white but is a very complex matter, where people do have to find solutions which are ‘human-worhty’.

Roe v Wade death pie chartA Catholic family man, raised in a healthy Protestant family, posted a graphic that depicted the number of human deaths from some of the biggest contributors since the American Civil war in a pie chart. The contrast between the human deaths from abortion versus all of the major American wars is dramatic when displayed in a chart like this.

According to him

abortion has taken more lives than all of the other wars in which America has fought. {Abortion and crime rates}

But I wonder where he got those figures from and if he sincerely knows the historical figures of American citizens killed in fights all over the world, let withstand only those finding an end of their life in weapon violence.

Another thought that can be presented in the pro-choice position is to find statistics, which with considerable explanation, attempt to tie a correlation between an increase in abortion, and a drop in crime as being a causal relationship. This is also an irrational untenable position, as seen with just a little rationality applied. {Abortion and crime rates}

It is true that

No one is weaker than a newborn infant, except an unborn infant. An unborn human is different from a born human only in stage of development and location. {Abortion and crime rates}

But that does not justify the carrying of guns when older than three and having the right to shoot one down when an adult or adolescent.

Hypothetically speaking, if you could prove that the crime rate among Jews was lowered during the holocaust, would that justify the death of six million Jews? Absolutely, positively, with all emphasis – no, it would not even be considered. The level of ridiculousness that this proposal achieves is morally less than the justification of killing 50 million humans because it arguably lowers the crime rate. Combating the evil of adult murder by killing a weaker, more vulnerable human population is entirely ridiculous. “Evil” cannot be vanquished by committing another “evil.” {Abortion and crime rates}

When going into a debate about pro-life or pro-abortion people do have to look at both sides of the medal.

And people may not forget abortion in the first instance is not at all about reducing crime rate or avoiding that criminals would come into the making. It is all about figuring out how the person with child can be helped to make the right choice for herself and for what she is carrying.

About the politicians who have to make the choice to allow something to exist, people forget they themselves are also responsible for them being there. In most democratic countries everybody has the right to vote and can have their say about the politics of that country. It is up to each citizen to let hear his or her voice. but they also do have to know that they cannot expect all other citizens to have the same opinion and/or the same faith as they. They too have to respect the freedom of the other person to make other decisions than he or she would take.

For many Americans the government may not touch the freedom to carry a weapon. They are convinced they should have the right to have the easy facility

as simple as point and shoot {Don’t Just Stick to Your Guns. Lock and Load.}

Voice out world which want to create an avenue for people, especially the youths, to speak out against everything around that is morally wrong, also to express your opinions and thoughts, writes

The never-ending debate on racial act of terrorism will not go away neither will the wayward use of fire arms by some citizens of the US. Every time a shooting occurs and people die or get injured the gun control issue comes up just for a little while until another shooting occurs again. This is a cycle that should be stopped.{Charleston shooting: The observation of an onlooker}

But is it not strange that the country which is so afraid of terrorism and spends billions of dollars against religious fundamentalists who not yet present one tenth of the amount of people killed by weapon-violence in the States of America? Whilst such violence seems worth to be protected for the right of mankind. And what about the rights of women who have to live with something or who do not want to live with something?

The fire-arms lobby in the United States is mightier than the president and has lots of so called Christians a smoke screen in front of their eyes. Those who defend the right to carry a weapon and who think they have the right to shoot at some one for sure do not have any right to condemn those females who have to make a terrible life-decision. Those pro-fire-arm people have for sure no say in the abortion matter, wishing the pro-abortion people to hell. They should look at their own heart first.

That is also what Jesus asks his followers. Before judging an other, please do look in your own bosom. How can you know the difficulties an other person is having to make a certain choice? How can we decide over some one else life and over some else his or her choices?

It is true that

“Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote.” {Archbishop Fulton Sheen}

but it is not always to see what is right. Often after words the ‘right’ is on the victor’s site. What is considered wrong by one person can be looked at the right thing to do by an other person, and the opposite. But all created in the image of God have an inborn feeling, a gut-feeling that can tell us what is wrong and what is right. More people should listen carefully to that gut-feeling.

All judging in the end will be up to Jesus and to no other man.

In our society what is important is that we should give a good education on all sort of matters and learn people how to behave. Because we have more people not being aware any more what is written in the Bible more people should make work of it to let others know.

When more people would become aware what is demanded from them by the Creator already less problems would occur. By knowing what is written in the Bible a person has their view of life and death and ethics reoriented back to the way God designed us to see things.

When people would get to know more the Biblical truth and come to love that above human sayings there can grow a life that will be not falling so easily for the traps of worldly life. Out of faith in Jesus people will find fulfilment and purpose, identity and dignity in living in harmony with God, and no longer shall depend on having a drive to find those things within oneself or in the systems of this world.

A true follower of Jesus shall love the master his teachings and shall try to live accordingly. He or she shall also try to be like him, in seeking to live first for God and for others, not for themselves, being aware of the values of life and respecting them.

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Please do find also to read:

Republicans’ Love Hate Relationship With Waiting Periods

GOP Takes One Hell of a Swing at Planned Parenthood—and Misses

Bobby Jindal’s Anti-Women Policies in Louisiana: A Case Study

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Preceding articles:

Whoopi Goldberg commandments and abortion

My Choice (by Jezabel Jonson)

The Real ‘Choice’

“They Told Me What I Wanted To Hear” – Real Abortion Stories

The Things We Carry, by Penny

Hillary Clinton Says Religious Beliefs About Abortion Have to be Changed

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Further reading:

  1. Christian values and voting not just a game
  2. The trigger of Aurora shooting
  3. High time to review the right to keep and bear arms
  4. American Senate ignoring many voices and tears of their own people
  5. Outreach to rednecks
  6. Speciesism and racism
  7. Maker of most popular weapon asks for repentance
  8. Newsweek asks: How ignorant are you?
  9. Built on or Belonging to Jewish tradition #4 Mozaic and Noachide laws
  10. Roman Catholic Church in the United States of America at war
  11. Demonizing families in poverty and misleading actions
  12. Last Events of Old Testament – Right of Wrong?
  13. Forms of slavery, human trafficking and disrespectful attitude to creation to be changed
  14. Time for all to act against free military-style assault weapons
  15. Subcutaneous power for humanity 3 Facing changing attitudes
  16. A look at the Failing man
  17. Inner feeling, morality and Inter-connection with creation
  18. Paris World Summit of Conscience, International interfaith gathering #3
  19. Failing Man to make free choice
  20. May reading the Bible provoke us into action to set our feet on the narrow way
  21. We should use the Bible every day
  22. Feed Your Faith Daily

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On other websites:

  1. Don’t Just Stick to Your Guns. Lock and Load.
  2. Peter Kinder for Missouri Governor!
  3. Charleston shooting: The observation of an onlooker
  4. The Empty Hand in the world of Firearm
  5. VA Sends Veterans’ Medical Info To FBI To Get Their Guns Taken Away
  6. Safety Around Firearms Challenge
  7. Great Moments In American Politics: Pulling a Gun While Being Drunk in the Senate
  8. Owners of billboard featuring ar-toting Santa defy critics
  9. UN Gun Treaty to Take Effect?
  10. How Diehl Stopped Second Amendment Preservation Act in the House
  11. Abortion objectifies both women and children
  12. If the baby is part of the woman’s body…
  13. Morning Motivation
  14. Baptist convention’s ‘Outreach to Rednecks’ includes gun give-away: Holy or holy crap?
  15. Ky. Baptists lure new worshippers with gun giveaway
  16. “All it takes is one good man with a gun….’ – The ‘Jesus Wants Me Packing This I Know’ Edition – ‘Kentucky Churches Giving Away Guns To Help People Discover Jesus’
  17. “All it takes is one good guy with a gun……..” – ‘The Facebook Post Taking The Gun Debate By Storm: Gun Laws Should Be Like Abortion Laws’
  18. God’s And The Republican’s Will -‘Huckabee Supports Denying Abortion To 10-Year-Old Rape Victim’
  19. Personhood – The Republican Religious Right War On Women – ‘Huckabee Floats Plan To Deploy U.S. Troops To Stop Women From Getting Abortions’
  20. ‘California Lawmaker: Abortion, Liberal Politicians May Have Caused Drought’
  21. The Republican War On Women – Because….You Know…..Abortions – ‘Pro-Life’ Texas Legislature Bans Planned Parenthood from Cancer Screening Program’
  22. Living In A Republican World – The Republican War On Women – ‘Republican Filibusters Abortion Ban Because Of Rape And Incest Exceptions’
  23. Lock and Load for the Lord
  24. Pat Robertson, born March 22, 1930 – a bad year for botched abortions
  25. ‘Biblically Correct’ Independent Candidate Susan-Anne White Is Back With More Anti-Gay Rantings
  26. The End? (from “Forward”)
  27. Who is with me?
  28. Meat On Our Bones: The Next Four Years
  29. Texas Defunds Planned Parenthood
  30. Texas cuts off Medicaid funding to Planned Parenthood
  31. If we value life, we don’t get to choose which lives we value
  32. Disclaimer: Strong Opinions
  33. Planned Parenthood and the Future
  34. ‘Pro-Life’ issues and human rights
  35. Standing Up for Life
  36. ICYMI: Would Defunding Planned Parenthood Violate the Constitution?
  37. The Byproduct Of Idolatry
  38. Michigan Bills Would Ban Second-Trimester Abortion Procedure
  39. Random Headlines — 10/16/15
  40. Abortion Advocacy Is Extremisim
  41. Planned Parenthood changes fetal-tissue reimbursement policy
  42. Kelsey Grammer’s Wife Shares Photo of Him Wearing Anti-Abortion Shirt
  43. Anti-abortion campaigner denied visa to travel to Australia
  44. Why I’m Pro-Abortion
  45. The #StandWithPP Roundup: Shutdown Narrowly Averted
  46. Utah State University students claim censorship over anti-abortion chalk art on campus
  47. sticky situations

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My Choice (by Jezabel Jonson)

I would not say a person has to undergo certain situations to have an idea of what is going on in such circumstance. People can have some idea of what a person must or can undergo in a certain situation. We also do know that every person in a similar situation undergoes it differently.

Not one abortion by woman is the same as an abortion by an other woman.

In this world of a lot of violence also not all unwanted babies do come from horrible situations, like rape or unwanted sex. We also must be aware that because of no allowance or of no provision or of economical difficulties to provide for contraceptive pills, condoms and/or implanon (the rod) the world also sees about 21.6 million women each year with unsafe abortions, adolescents suffering the most from complications and having the highest unmet need for contraception ‒ yet are still not perceived as eligible for “family planning” in many countries.

We also in many countries can find medical abuse, such as refusal to provide pain relief or the use of caesarean section to avoid doing a second trimester abortion that would be illegal (Argentina) or to save the life of the baby when the woman has asked for an abortion (Ireland, Paraguay).

For those persons to come to a decision which is going to change their life for ever is not easy and often underestimated.

In our society we also have to take certain responsibilities which give no excuse to accuse the one who has become pregnant. To incriminate the person with child is an easy way to escape the responsibility of not having guided her when she was young and without child. Before things happened female beings should have learned about ways to prevent and in case something went wrong how to avoid a pregnancy (e.g. after-morning pill).

Though when no help is offered or no knowledge about safe ways was there when the person comes to know she is pregnant it will be up to that person herself to make decisions, which not always will be easy to make.

In the West the decision to have an abortion would be totally different than in China were there are about 13 million abortions conducted every year. The US, by comparison, which has about one-quarter of the population, conducts around one million annually. Forced abortions, as part of the government’s one-child policy, have long been used to contain the country’s population since the 1980’s. It is more common to see an ad for “painless abortions” than for condoms in China.

The Holy Father talks frequently about spiritual struggle, as a devoted follower of St Ignatius Loyola would do. He has clearly condemned abortion on many occasions, and he has said that the “door is closed” to the ordination of women to the priesthood. At the same time in many other denominations the woman is still a second citizens and seems to be there only to reproduce. But as Pope Francis I has so deftly demonstrated, respect for life does not fit neatly into left or right, liberal or conservative. Undocumented workers’ lives are worth respect. Unborn life is worth respect. Muslim refugees’ lives are worth respect. The handicapped, the elderly, the patient with cancer or a brain tumour – their lives are worth respect. Criminals in prison – even on death row- their lives are worth respect. The Catholic Church, according the Pope, has always faithfully taught that every life is precious.

The Bible for sure has taught that and still demands human beings to have respect for every living soul. This respect is for all living beings (plants, animals, people) and that is so often forgotten by those who want to throw stones to people who have chosen to end the life of a foetus. What we also see and hear is that of those protesting against abortion there are many who are against the abolition of weapons and against the abolition of the death penalty. Suddenly there it does not seem to be wrong to take life of some other living being (be it a man, a woman, an animal, but also even not a child) Is that not a hypocritic attitude of many Americans?

We all better should listen to those people who had the experience, for whatever reason, to be put in front of the decision-making.

It is wrong to think mishaps only happen to certain people or even only to yourself. No one is excluded from certain unpleasant happenings in life. Therefore we should be well aware that others can have had certain experiences we never would like to have but which we also not would like to have others, or when there are people who had to undergo certain experiences that they find ways out of it and can find ways to come back on the right track of a better life.

The witnessing on Jezabel and Catt therefore is important and may not be ignored.
We all must be aware that every day somewhere in the world living souls are confronted with
“The good, the bad, and the ugly. ” and perhaps then it is better to have “No censorship, no bullshit, no knights in shining armour.”

Lets face reality and help each other to bear it.

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Preceding: Whoopi Goldberg commandments and abortion

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Additional reading

  1. A philosophical error which rejects the body as part of the human person
  2. From Despair to Victory
  3. I can’t believe that … (4) God’s word would be so violent
  4. 2014 Human Rights
  5. American Senate ignoring many voices and tears of their own people
  6. Roman Catholic Church in the United States of America at war
  7. Caricaturing and disapproving sceptics, religious critics and figured out ethics
  8. About lions and babies
  9. Westboro Baptist Church and Catholic Truth against Nelson Mandela
  10. Always a choice

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Further reading:

Jezabel & Catt

I want to talk about abortion. I want to talk about my abortion.

I don’t want this blog to turn into a pro choice versus anti abortion discussion. I merely want to share my experience about a very personal and difficult time in my life.  Everyone has their own opinions and everyone will have some form of judgement when they read this. The fact is, that is your opinion and your judgement. Not mine.

So, here goes. When I was 21 I fell pregnant. It was an accident, I didn’t plan it and I was scared. I was at university, I had just met this man and I was petrified. I was scared not just for the 21 year old girl with stars in her eyes, I was also scared about how I would be treated when I admitted to myself I didn’t want a baby.

As a woman in…

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Whoopi Goldberg commandments and abortion

Whoopi Goldberg resident Bible-scholar on “the view”

In September Godfathers Politics commented on a lady who has a certain swing to

get away with her ignorance because her audience is often just as ignorant as she is {Godfatherpolitics: Whoopi Goldberg is the resident Bible-scholar on “the view”}

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Whoopi Goldberg (the most recent winner) became the tenth winner, first winner to win two of their awards in the same year, and first African American winner in 2002. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Whoopi Goldberg on Tuesday September 22nd ranted about Catholicism, the Pope and his visit to America.

Whoopi Goldberg, offering her thoughts on the faith, complained about Pope Francis discussing abortion: ‘Well, there’s nothing in the Book that says anything about abortion. Let’s make sure of that. The Ten Commandments are the Ten Commandments. There’s only ten.’” {Whoopi Goldberg is the resident Bible-scholar on “the view”}

10 Commandments for many people

Most people do think there are only Ten commandments (the 10 commandments / 10 words) but God has given mankind many more mitzva (plural of mitzvot/mitzvoth), Statutes given unto us or commandments. Also we should know that there are the mitzva of the One and Only True God of gods, but also the commandments of Christ Jesus. Both are given to us to help us fulfil the Wishes of God and to bring us on the right track to the entrance of the Kingdom of God.

When we look at Bible translations we are confronted with choices being made and the translaters hoping to find words people would understand in the right context. Some Bible translations substitute the wordcommandments” for “words.” therefore Godfather politics says:

Whoopi can’t be blamed for this mistake since millions of people make it.

The Most Trustworthy All Powerful Master Creator Deity Adonai, Everlasting Elohim Hashem Divine Jehovah God, with Whom we have to build a good relationship, has spoken many words in the past. Those words are bundled in the HolyScriptures, the book of books or Holy Bible, also known as the infallible and incorruptible comforting Word of God, full of Wisdom, that brings us the truth and can feed us when heard and that we have to accept, to be searched, to read, to studyto understand, to follow,  able to bring us reconciliation, and which has to be proclaimed.

Decalogue

The Ambitious Italian American who adheres to his own personal code of honor prefers people to use the more accurate word “Decalogue,” from the Greek words deka (ten) and logos (words).

The name “decalogue” is recorded from late Middle English, and comes via French and ecclesiastical Latin from Greek dekalogos (biblos) ‘(book of) the Ten Commandments’, from hoi deka logoi, literally ‘the ten sayings’ which in many translations became  ‘the Ten Commandments’ . The decalogue brings a summary of divine law given by the God of Israel to Moses on Mt. Sinai. They describe what’s listed in Exodus 20:1-17 and Deuteronomy 5:6-21. Even so, command “words” (debarim) from God are laws to be followed.

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The Decalogue or Ten Sayings of God on the 2 Stone tables of Moses – “Tables of the Law”, synagogue window, Alsace, late 19th century, Alsatian Museum of Strasbourg.

Those sayings of God or the wishes He Expressed have a paramount place in the ethical systems of Judaism, Christendom and Christianity, and Islam. Listed in the books of Exodus and Deuteronomy, the commandments are divided into duties toward God and toward one’s family and neighbours and society. Their normative status is indicated by their prescriptive and unconditional language. They function as general stipulations decreed by God as part of His covenant with the people of Israel. In both Exodus and Deuteronomy, the case law following the listing of the commandments is based on them and deduced from the principles contained in them. In Islamic tradition, Moses brings new revelation in the form of the commandments. In Christianity it is Jesus who brings a new revelation and offers mankind with the grace of God a Royal Commandment or Golden Rule in exchange for about 675 old laws, having the gentiles (nonJewish), goy or goyim (people of the nations) or heathen who want to convert to the faith of Jesus making it easier to be part of that Christian community.

Being under the Law

Believers in God have to be under the Law following, obeying or observing the ordinances of Law of Moses or Mosaic Law, which has laws of deportment or conduct, ways of behaviour and customs, concerning food and ways of eating and law-keeping. This decalogue, or God’s laws is also known as  Law of Moses and has been the base for many law-books.

The Bible, God’s inspired Word, should be the guide for all those people who believe in the Divine Creator God the Most Almighty.

When we do hear Whoopi Goldberg talking about the Bible and Christian faith see sees to have an idea which we do find by some more American television viewers and which is in big contrast with some other American views. Two ends which are contrasting like day and night.
Whoopi Goldberg, offering her thoughts on the faith in her show, complained about Pope Francis discussing abortion:

‘Well, there’s nothing in the Book that says anything about abortion. Let’s make sure of that. The Ten Commandments are the Ten Commandments. There’s only ten.’”

As shown above there are more than ten commandments written down in Scriptures and the ten words she is talking about are including a whole lot more than she seems to believe.

Women trump card

For

The war on women trump card has been abortion. Any time a conservative begins to make political progress, Democrats and any number of establishment Republicans pull out the abortion deck and play the “exception” cards: rape, incest, and the life of the mother. {How Rand Paul Turned the Tables on the Abortion Debate }

Several things may not be explicitly mentioned in the Holy Scriptures, but can be found in-between the lines.as such many may think there is nothing about rape and abortion in the Bible.

It’s true that there is not specific law in the Bible that says,

“You shall not abort your child.”

You won’t find these laws either:
“You shall not drown your child. You shall not throw your child off a bridge. You shall not strangle your child. You shall not leave your child in a hot car. You shall not stab your child. You shall not poison your child.”

“You shall not murder covers”

all these situations and many more. {Whoopi Goldberg is the resident Bible-scholar on “the view”}

Living souls to be respected

From the Holy Scriptures we can come to know we do have to have respect for every living soul, this means every animal and every human being. A soul being the element with life in it., which belongs to the Almighty Creator and not to man. We may use the animals for food, but should not just kill them for fun. the same we should be careful with other human beings which we do not have the right to take their life. It is not up to man to judge about other human beings their life. This brings into discussion two important human beings, the ones who are not yet on earth and the ones who are living already on this earth. For the last group it is quit easy. Even when they murdered somebody it is not up to us to lower ourselves at the same level as them. So we may not kill those who even did atrocious things to others. The death penalty is totally against the Law of God. Strangely enough in the United States we have lots of Americans who cry more death-penalties should be carried out and that more people should land on the electric chair or should get a deadly injection, those same people call the doctors and girls or women who carry out an abortion a murderer. Some even do not mind to kill such doctors who have abortion clinics. (Weird, weird, weird!)

For the more difficult matter of respect to other living beings comes the unborn who is there because of rape, or who is dis-formed, or who brings the carrier in life danger and offers the only solution either to bring the child on earth and let the mother die or keep the mother alive but have the death foetus.

The Bible attributes self-consciousness to unborn babies, something that modern medicine has studied and acknowledged. Jacob and Esau “struggled together within” their mother’s womb (Genesis 25:22). The New Testament offers a similar glimpse into prenatal consciousness: “And it came about that when Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb” (Luke 1:41). “Struggling” and “leaping” are the result of consciousness. Jacob and Esau fighting inside the womb is indicative of their continued fighting outside the womb. John leaps in reaction to Mary’s pregnancy. {Whoopi Goldberg is the resident Bible-scholar on “the view”}

Pastoral letters and justification

In 2014 in the United States of America for several Americans the newest low for Planned Parenthood is to use the Bible and religion to convince women that they are morally justified to kill their unborn babies.

The organization’s so-called “Pastoral Letter” begins with this outlandish claim:

“Many people wrongly assume that all religious leaders disapprove of abortion. The truth is that abortion is not even mentioned in the Scriptures.” {Planned Parenthood Uses Bible to Support Abortion}

For many evangelicals and pentecostal Christian believers it may be very simple, but they forget that life is not just that simple. Many religious leaders disapprove of abortion, but others also dare to point out reasons why it could be better to have an abortion. but

It’s not a valid argument to say that because some do that killing an unborn baby is a morally acceptable choice. {Planned Parenthood Uses Bible to Support Abortion}

De Mar is wrong

to suspect that most if not all the religious leaders Planned Parenthood claims do not “disapprove of abortion” have a very low opinion of the authority of the Bible. {Planned Parenthood Uses Bible to Support Abortion}

Several of those religious and political leaders might have a much higher opinion of the authority of the Bible and some even might believe the many words for what they say whilst lots of the anti-abortionist leagues do have their own agenda and do keep to a lot of unbiblical doctrines.

Sixth commandment

Though many people might forget that the Sixth Commandment also covers unborn babies. Unborn babies are viewed as persons. everything which receives the breath of the Divine Creator is what becomes a ‘living soul’. A soul is not something what exists next to a person, but is the living person him or herself. As soon as there has been a connection which has created a beginning of a new human being, there is a new life.

We may not forget that it will never be so easy as many pretend to take away yourself the life from what moves within the own female body. We also have to remember that no Hebrew woman in the old times would ever have thought of killing her unborn baby. To be barren was one of the worst things for a woman to endure (Genesis 17:15-16; 25:21; 30:1; 1 Samuel 1:2-10; Psalms 113:9; 127:3-5; Luke 1:7; 23:29; Galatians 4:27; Hebrew 11:11). To kill an “inheritance from Jehovah God” would have been unthinkable.

But then people should also consider

when a being or something from nature becomes a human being and an inheritance from God.

Products of conception

Big question in the whole matter is also

when does a product of conception becomes a human being?

De Mar may point out

Some commentators claim that in Exodus 21:22 killing a “foetus” is nothing more than a property crime rather than the killing of a human being. This is absurd. Their operating premise is that an unborn baby is not defined as a person.

when he says that the Bible teaches otherwise he does overlook that in several passages he mentions in several articles he wrote about this subject he always refers to ‘children’ who came out of the womb of the mother or who were already long borns and as such were effectively to be called ‘children’.
He writes

The original Hebrew reads: “And if men struggle with each other and strike a pregnant woman so that her children [yeled] come out. . . .” Notice that the text uses the word “children,” not “products of conception.” {Whoopi Goldberg is the resident Bible-scholar on “the view”} + {Planned Parenthood Uses Bible to Support Abortion}

He recognises:

Notice that the text uses the word “children,” not “products of conception.” The Hebrew word for “children” in this verse is used in other contexts to designate a child already born. For example, in Exodus 2:6 we read: “When Pharaoh’s daughter opened [the basket], she saw the child [yeled], and behold, the boy was crying. And she had pity on him and said, ‘This is one of the Hebrews’ children [yeled].’” {Planned Parenthood Uses Bible to Support Abortion}

That child from the Hebrews (Moses) was already delivered some time earlier.

We must be honest, nowhere is there written ‘child’ for the foetus. Only when the foetus is fully grown is being spoken about the child that comes out of the woman.

The bible also speaks about giving birth prematurely, which in english bible translations is often translated by “miscarriage.” The Holman Christian Standard Bible translates:

“When men get in a fight and hit a pregnant woman so that her children are born [prematurely] but there is no injury, the one who hit her must be fined as the woman’s husband demands from him, and he must pay according to judicial assessment”

de Mar writes further:

There are two Hebrew words that fit the circumstances of miscarriage or premature birth: “There shall be no one miscarrying [shakal] or barren in your land” (Ex. 23:26; also Hosea 9:14). The Hebrew word for “miscarriage” was available to Moses since it appears just two chapters later.

Another example is found in the book of Job: “Or like a miscarriage [nefel] which is discarded, I would not be” (Job 3:16). Meredith G. Kline offers a helpful summary of the passage:

“This law found in Exodus 21:22–25 turns out to be perhaps the most decisive positive evidence in scripture that the fetus is to be regarded as a living person…. No matter whether one interprets the first or second penalty to have reference to a miscarriage, there is no difference in the treatments according to the fetus and the woman. Either way the fetus is regarded as a living person, so that to be criminally responsible for the destruction of the fetus is to forfeit one’s life…. The fetus, at any stage of development, is, in the eyes of this law, a living being, for life (nephesh) is attributed to it…. Consistently in the relevant data of Scripture a continuum of identity is evident between the fetus and the person subsequently born and Exodus 21:22–25 makes it clear that this prenatal human being is to be regarded as a separate and distinct human life.”1

Umberto Cassuto, also known as Moshe David Cassuto (1883–1951), was a Jewish rabbi and biblical scholar born in Florence, Italy. In his commentary on Exodus, he presents an accurate translation of the passage based on the nuances of the Hebrew:

“When men strive together and they hurt unintentionally a woman with child, and her children come forth but no mischief happens — that is, the woman and the children do not die — the one who hurts her shall surely be punished by a fine. But if any mischief happens, that is, if the woman dies or the children, then you shall give life for life.”2

The King James Version takes a different translation approach, but it is consistent with the text that “children” are “coming out.” The KJV reads,

“If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine” (Ex. 21:22).

The use of the word “fruit” is a descriptive euphemism for a born child in the Old Testament (Gen. 30:2) and the New Testament (Luke 1:42).

There is no getting around the fact that the Bible opposes killing unborn children, for that’s what they’re called. How can an organization like Planned Parenthood that is in the unborn baby killing business be trusted with commentary on what the Bible says on the subject?

  1. Meredith G. Kline, “Lex Talionis and the Human Fetus,” The Simon Greenleaf Law Review, 5 (1985–1986), 75, 83, 88–89. This article originally appeared in Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society (September 1977). Also see H. Wayne House, “Miscarriage or Premature Birth: Additional Thoughts on Exodus 21:22-25,” Westminster Theological Journal, Vol. 41, No. 1 (Fall 1978), 108–123.
  2. Umberto Cassuto, Commentary on the Book of Exodus (Jerusalem: Magnes Press, The Hebrew University, 1967), 275. {Planned Parenthood Uses Bible to Support Abortion}

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  2. Incomplete without the mind of God
  3. Commandments of God
  4. Commandments of Christ
  5. Necessity of a revelation of creation 11 Believing and obeying the gospel of the Kingdom of God
  6. People Seeking for God 5 Bread of life
  7. Hashem השם, Hebrew for “the Name”
  8. Bible Word from God
  9. Bible a guide – Bijbel als gids
  10. Looking for True Spirituality 8 Measuring Up
  11. Being Religious and Spiritual 5 Gnostic influences
  12. Being Religious and Spiritual 8 Spiritual, Mystic and not or well religious
  13. Not trying to make the heathen live like Jews #1
  14. God’s design in the creation of the world
  15. God’s Blog recorded in a Book
  16. Creator and Blogger God 3 Lesson and solution
  17. Creator and Blogger God 4 Expounding voice
  18. Creator and Blogger God 6 For His people
  19. Creator and Blogger God 7 A Blog of a Book 1 Believing the Blogger
  20. Creator and Blogger God 8 A Blog of a Book 2 Holy One making Scriptures Holy
  21. Creator and Blogger God 10 A Blog of a Book 4 Listening to the Blogger
  22. Creator and Blogger God 12 Old and New Blog 2 Blog for every day
  23. Words God speaks unto all and the Spirit that quickens
  24. Scripture words written for our learning, given by inspiration of God for edification
  25. Statutes given unto us
  26. Time passing away
  27. Are Christians prepared to Rejoice in the Lord
  28. Looking for something or for the Truth and what it might be and self-awareness
  29. The true light in recorded words
  30. Observing the commandments and becoming doers of the Word
  31. Mitzvot or commandment
  32. God’s law or Law of God or Laws of God
  33. Laws of the Old Testament
  34. Biblical law
  35. Laws of Moses or Law of Moses
  36. Law of Christ
  37. Laws of man
  38. Ethical laws
  39. Family laws
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  48. Letter of the law
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  51. Sharia law
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  60. Judeo-Christian-values
  61. Works of the law
  62. Love for Law of God
  63. 1st commandment
  64. 3rd commandment
  65. 4th commandment
  66. Commandments of Christ
  67. Commandments of God
  68. Keeping Gods commandments
  69. To observe Gods commandments
  70. Yoke of commandments
  71. Why we do not keep to a Sabbath or a Sunday or Lord’s Day #2 Testimony
  72. Why we do not keep to a Sabbath or a Sunday or Lord’s Day #6 Sunday or the Lord’s day
  73. How long to wait before bringing religiousness and spirituality in practice
  74. Blogging in the world for Jesus and his Father
  75. Written down for God to bring us up to a virtuous life
  76. For the Will of Him who is greater than Jesus
  77. Al-Fatiha [The Opening] Süra 1: 4-7 Merciful Lord of the Creation to show us the right path
  78. Catholicism, Anabaptism and Crisis of Christianity
  79. Incomplete without the mind of God
  80. Feed Your Faith Daily
  81. We should use the Bible every day
  82. Bric-a-brac of the Bible
  83. Letter to a Non-Christian Nation
  84. Praying and acts of meditation without ceasing + Commands to obey
  85. Building up the spirit of the soul
  86. Being under the law
  87. Ceremonial law
  88. Lawful actions
  89. Unlawful actions
  90. Abolishment of Mosaic Law
  91. Breach of Sabbath law
  92. Breaking the Mosaic law
  93. Abrogation of many Mosaic Laws
  94. Were allowed to wilfully break the Law of Moses
  95. Made dead to the Law
  96. Curse of the law
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  99. The Law of Christ: Law of Love
  100. Free from the law
  101. Golden rule for understanding in spiritual matters obedience
  102. Built on or Belonging to Jewish tradition #4 Mozaic and Noachide laws
  103. A philosophical error which rejects the body as part of the human person
  104. From Despair to Victory
  105. I can’t believe that … (4) God’s word would be so violent
  106. 2014 Human Rights
  107. American Senate ignoring many voices and tears of their own people
  108. Roman Catholic Church in the United States of America at war
  109. Caricaturing and disapproving sceptics, religious critics and figured out ethics
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  1. But the one who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but a doer who acts, he will be blessed in his doing.
  2. Republicans’ Love Hate Relationship With Waiting Periods
  3. Choosing Evil
  4. My Choice
  5. New at Live Action: Abortion Fans Terrified of Memorials to Preborn. Let’s Do It.
  6. Should I Have An Abortion
  7. Praise Report from Joan
  8. The Things We Carry, by Penny
  9. Video: Children and Abortion
  10. “They Told Me What I Wanted To Hear” – Real Abortion Stories
  11. New at Live Action – Obama Hypocritically Lectures Christians on Inclusion
  12. Letter to National Abortion Federation #1
  13. At Least Someones’s Being Honest…
  14. Abortion today: what women need and want
  15. A Case of Need by Michael Crichton (1968)
  16. Gloria Steinem: ‘If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament’
  17. Michigan Bills Would Ban Second-Trimester Abortion Procedure
  18. Episode 113: My Choice is No Crime – Abortion is a Health Issue
  19. Experiences at the Abortion Clinic
  20. 33 Ways You Can Be Prolife
  21. Gun Control: Pro-Life or Anti-Suffering?
  22. Thinking about Faith and Politics: A Non-Partisan Reflection
  23. A Conversation With “Safe,” “Legal,” and “Rare”
  24. The White Rose
  25. Sidewalk Chronicles: Prolife Mentorship
  26. Religion and Abortion
  27. Realities and ideas in listening to the Pope and the Synod
  28. The Terminated
  29. For my Mother, who tried to murder me…
  30. Top Two GOP Planks Expose Mindset
  31. Politicians and abortion
  32. Frenetic Friday Night
  33. The Antichrist’s Eucharist
  34. New at Live Action: Liberal pro-lifer needs reminding that respect must be mutual
  35. Just two cents… & art speaks in a silent way
  36. A house divided…..a reflection.
  37. Thoughts on Hippocrates
  38. Rick Santorum: ‘If marriage is just about adults, kids are in trouble’
  39. Planned Parenthood Hearing Oversight Committee Video
  40. I had an abortion too
  41. Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992)
  42. Grace, Truth, Worldviews and The Ongoing Abortion Debate
  43. Did We Win?
  44. Pro-Life and Pro-Choice
  45. Jacquette on Abortion
  46. Turnbull and Dutton wage war on women
  47. Rogue mothers have no decency
  48. Fan Friday—Planned Parenthood
  49. A moving set of photos has reignited a debate about abortion in China
  50. How do you make her a mother?
  51. Wasserman Schultz’s Shocking Answer To When Her Children Became Human
  52. Lost and Found – October 16th Edition
  53. Abortion Advocacy Is Extremisim
  54. Abortionist Caught With 14 Containers of Aborted Babies in His Car Works at Catholic Hospital | LifeNews.com
  55. Women would not lose access to healthcare if Planned Parenthood is defunded
  56. DWS Won’t Say if her Children Were Human Beings Before They Were Born
  57. The Medical Framework and Early Medical Abortion in the U.K.: How Can a State Control Swallowing?
  58. For This Cause I Was Born
  59. One Thousand Stitches
  60. Motherhood in the spring time
  61. The Second Side
  62. Why does Hillary Clinton regard Planned Parenthood as a protected organization?
  63. Things you should know about Pregnancy
  64. Women’s health 2.0: The pill, the ‘Rod’ and emergency contraception vs abortion.
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  68. Missouri GOP lawmakers brainstorm new abortion legislation
  69. HSCI319W – Applied Health Ethics – Midterm Review Session
  70. Cops seize 14 containers of human tissue from abortionist
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  72. The Principle of Not Caring What Other People Do
  73. A list of shame: 9 MEPs publicly support Planned Parenthood’s trade with baby organs
  74. PPFA change shows its guilt, pro-lifers say
  75. Church, Wake Up
  76. What Planned Parenthood’s Change on Fetal Tissue Really Means
  77. Pro-Life Argument Archive ❤
  78. Women’s health
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  80. Four
  81. The Life You Save May Be Your Own
  82. Federal lawsuit filed in San Diego to stop California pregnancy care center “Bully” law AB 775 that coerces conscience violating speech.
  83. California Democrat Governor forces crisis pregnancy clinics to promote abortion
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  89. The truth about how women get abortions in America
  90. The Real ‘Choice’
  91. “Whose Positions Are ‘Extreme”?: Marco Rubio, ‘A Woman Has A Right To Choose’, But Not Really
  92. Abortion Survivor to Cecile Richards: ‘I Am So Thankful to Be Alive’
  93. Planned Parenthood and the Future
  94. Abortion- It’s Wrong no matter how you look at it!
  95. ‘Pro-Life’ issues and human rights
  96. Abortion
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  98. Standing Up for Life
  99. My Pet Peeve
  100. Gender Stereotypes, Sex education and illegal Abortions in Argentina.
  101. Nothing Changes
  102. Affirmation of Life vs. Quality of Life
  103. Quick link: decriminalise abortion in NSW
  104. CA Religious Health Clinics Sue For Right To Withhold Info About Abortion
  105. The Ironic Post on Patheos that Bristol and Sarah Never Read
  106. Sidewalk chroncicles: “I’m going to Hell”, he said.
  107. Planned Parenthood Announces They Will No Longer Be Compensated for Fetal Parts
  108. ICYMI: Would Defunding Planned Parenthood Violate the Constitution?
  109. Truth exposed about woman who stood up to Trump with tough questions
  110. The Byproduct Of Idolatry
  111. Why We Should be Nothing but Pro-voice
  112. 313. Pro-Choice Pro-Life
  113. Our Gospel call to support a culture of life

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